Annie:> "besides, the person I am becoming." will start in 52 minutes :> nothing can go wrong :> this will be an online choreography? Annie:> yes Annie:> there is a script, a text, and we use objects Annie:> our bodies will follow a rhythm Aileen:> Is there some way to move the chat next to the screen? Annie:> http://bram.org/besides/chat.php?room=1andsb=0 JanR:> right David:> ⋐⊡⊠⋑ Aileen:> Yes, got it, thanks! JanR:> 2 minutes JanR:> recording ... Dr?:> do objects speak? Dr?:> Art is consumable too :> US togetherness, human agency Fred X:> it sybolises dispair Fred X:> hence objects are symbols JanR:> But what is the message of a tea bag? Fred X:> I wonder too Dannyblueboy:> objects are solid remains of a liquid humanity Dr?:> this not democracy, no Fred X:> Waste? David:> clap clap JanR:> I'm confused Annie:> thanks Annie:> confused about what, Jan ? Duygu:> thank you! :> Thank you! Annie:> I am looking forward to see the recordings Annie:> I am looking forward to see the recordings Aileen:> The memories and associations the object evoke must be different for each person. Martina:> the tea bag was an online protagonist Annie:> Thanks you all for assisting Jo:> I was deeply moved. Thank you. Helen:> I was fascinated. Found it very beautiful… JanR:> I'm confused about the relation between objects and pitch Aileen:> Do my memories connect with those of another, if I know nothing more of that person than the words I see on the screen? Martina:> Thank you, those, who were recording. Martina:> and thank you, those, who were not recording Helen:> Many thanks to you, Martina and Annie Jo:> Pleasure. We did it in two parts to avoid crashing our machines :) Annie:> It was a great pleasure to do, to prepare together. Annie:> Was this dance? Annie:> Aileen can youexplain a bit more your phrase? Martina:> many objects were tested in their capabilities Annie:> I am curious Jo:> Annie and Martina, interestingly I felt very sad before you started speaking. Aileen:> I'm sitting here alone in my office with so many memories and associations bubbling up, evoked by the objects, especially with the words. Annie:> During the silent period? Martina:> because of the silence? Annie:> Sending you Aileen and Jo and Helen big virtual hugs Jo:> Your words were beautiful, profound, but there was something about the objects speaking for you that made me feel my isolation, my distance from both of you. Aileen:> But I'm alone and not alone, as others are seeing the same objects, hearing the same words, but with their own memories. Duygu:> I'm so agree that language has a incredible force Martina:> would these associations be different if there would be people around you? Aileen:> If there were people in the same room with me, I would probably talk with them, maybe create more distance that way. Jo:> Helen and I watched side-by-side, at separate screens. Speaking didn't feel appropriate or needed. Annie:> Tomorrow there will be another performance. It will be completely different. Martina:> interesting Jo:> Yes, Aileen, always the personal superimposed on the action. Our perceptions shaped by where we've been before, what we've seen before, what we know now. Annie:> Martina and I will talk about death and illness. This time you will be able to see us talking. Aileen:> Tomorrow will be recorded too? Jo:> Did this feel like a conversation for both of you, or were you speaking to us? :> table Annie:> Yes, Aileen. Helen:> Yes, we'll be here Annie:> I was speaking to you Martina:> it felt like a multilogue Jo:> I felt that very strongly. Martina:> not clear who is hearing the words and what they respond to exactly Annie:> yes Martina, that's it. Annie:> I am very much intrigued by the object talking with us Jo:> Yes, the associations are just as meaningful, if not more so than the words. Duygu:> some of my reflections: images can be taken as a cultural objects, as well as they receive their meaning from personal experiences / also a big impact on the perception. the textual language is standing on the top of the hierarcy Annie:> Thank you all, hope to see you again, and don't hesitate to mail us if you have other reactions later on. Helen:> I enjoyed all the objects. But the kotex (or whatever) gave me a jolt and I laughed. So long ago Martina:> when I said "is this democracy" I felt like commenting annie and me - juxtaposing things and watching them side by side on a screen Annie:> :) Aileen:> I wish we could all go outside and have a glass of wine together now and continue the conversation. Martina:> this would be very nice Annie:> would be nice indeed Annie:> I think I will join JanR in the garden here, bye! Helen:> I wish we could too… maybe tomorrow? … :-) Aileen:> Then I hope you have a lovely evening in the garden, Annie. Bye!